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DavidMartinko
30-Dec-2008, 01:13 AM
Ok, this is really beginning to bug me so I'm going to make a request.

I have 70 SRC files in one workspace. MOST of them I never touch... a lot of
them are Single Use, but I keep them around for reference or in case I need
them again.

I am always having to hit the "more" button to get to the program I want to
work on. So, I thought I was going to be smart and I edited the SWS file to
change the ordering of the SRC's so the ones I use most often are at the
top... but as soon as I added a new project it resorted the list.

So, here is my suggestion: I would like the list to display the most
frequently accessed SRC files, something similar to the way WindowsXP would
display the most used programs in the START menu. Just because I accessed a
program once didn't put it on the list... but if I accessed it several
times, it would bump something else off the list and put itself there.

If you _have_ to just display them as RECENT instead of MOST USED, I suppose
that would at least an improvement.

The advantage MOST USED would have over RECENT, is that if I usually use 15
of the EXE's, and I open 1 of the 55 I rarely use change, then it wouldn't
have to appear in the list and I could see more relevant programs.

I don't think you need the combo on the toolbar at all... I think I prefer
the combo in the Workspace Explorer floating panel. It would still be nice
to have something like a "recent", and "all".

.... see attached image for an idea ...
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David Martinko
Redeemed Software & Hosting
www.RedeemedSoftware.com
www.RedeemedHosting.com
248-535-7495

Dave Robinson
30-Dec-2008, 08:34 AM
I have 150-250 .src files in each project workspace because we use an SDI paradigm, and I touch almost all relatively frequently, so the toolbar combo list is useless to me (the first 10 alphabetically are amongst the least used).
I first moaned about it when the two-selector style first appeared and I haven't changed my opinion.
If it must exist because of some reason that doesn't apply to me, at least use a siimilar control to that used in the workspace explorer so that all .src are available rather than this half-measure.
Preferably, If we are going to keep two .src selectors at least make them do something different to each other, like Dave suggests.

my 0.0146 euros worth

Dave

wila
30-Dec-2008, 01:02 PM
Well it is on par with the "10 latest workspaces" in their tools which
doesn't cut it for me either. But if everyone is happy with it, then I
don't see why DAW should change it. They sure don't have to change it
for my little person.

Happy New Year!
--
Wil

Dave Robinson wrote:
> I have 150-250 .src files in each project workspace because we use an SDI paradigm, and I touch almost all relatively frequently, so the toolbar combo list is useless to me (the first 10 alphabetically are amongst the least used).
> I first moaned about it when the two-selector style first appeared and I haven't changed my opinion.
> If it must exist because of some reason that doesn't apply to me, at least use a siimilar control to that used in the workspace explorer so that all .src are available rather than this half-measure.
> Preferably, If we are going to keep two .src selectors at least make them do something different to each other, like Dave suggests.
>
> my 0.0146 euros worth
>
> Dave
>

DavidMartinko
30-Dec-2008, 01:18 PM
I would be happy if they did away with the combo completely and made me use
a file selection dialog... At least with that I can use *something*.src and
find the file I am looking for faster than having to popup a list, then
click an item, then scroll the list and select a file. It would certainly be
less work for DAW to do that... plus you can get away from having to
register your SRC files. I really like not having to register all the other
components and now I am spoiled and don't want to have to register my apps,
also.

--
David Martinko
Redeemed Software & Hosting
www.RedeemedSoftware.com
www.RedeemedHosting.com
248-535-7495

"Wil van Antwerpen" <info@antwise.com> wrote in message
news:OBs56iqaJHA.4048@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> Well it is on par with the "10 latest workspaces" in their tools which
> doesn't cut it for me either. But if everyone is happy with it, then I
> don't see why DAW should change it. They sure don't have to change it for
> my little person.
>
> Happy New Year!
> --
> Wil
>
> Dave Robinson wrote:
>> I have 150-250 .src files in each project workspace because we use an SDI
>> paradigm, and I touch almost all relatively frequently, so the toolbar
>> combo list is useless to me (the first 10 alphabetically are amongst the
>> least used). I first moaned about it when the two-selector style first
>> appeared and I haven't changed my opinion. If it must exist because of
>> some reason that doesn't apply to me, at least use a siimilar control to
>> that used in the workspace explorer so that all .src are available rather
>> than this half-measure.
>> Preferably, If we are going to keep two .src selectors at least make them
>> do something different to each other, like Dave suggests.
>>
>> my 0.0146 euros worth
>>
>> Dave
>>

Garret Mott
30-Dec-2008, 01:44 PM
Great topic, Dave. I too have been annoyed by having to hit "More" all the
time. Feel a little like Oliver Twist - without the "Please sir" <g>

Here's a thought or 2. Not saying they'd be trivial, but I don't think
they'd be rocket science either:

Start with a clone of the Code Explorer (IOW a treeview that allows moving
items up & down). Save the info in an xml file for the studio. This way
the developer could put everything in the order he/she likes.

Workspace1
Project1
Project2
Workspace2
Project1
Project2
etc.

Doubleclick on a workspace - opens the workspace, collapses all branches
except the current workspace. Doubleclick on a Project - opens the
workspace (if need be), then project, then displays the project treeview for
that project.

Maybe add a user-defined optional level (like a folder) for grouping
projects? This would allow those 170 SDI project folks to group their stuff
(dare I asy it?) logically. Or to group All of a customer's stuff in one
folder - or whatever.

Or - maybe combine this with the workspace explorer (shouldn't what's there
now really be called the"Project Explorer"? I guess it does have project
combo #2...):

Workspace1
Project1
Views
View1
Dialogs
Project2
etc.

I think making the treeview 4-5 levels may get too busy/wide, hence my first
suggestion.

It'd also be possible to lay it out like the Class Palette (Base
Controls=Workspace1, cAnimation=Project1, etc.) - but I think I like the
treeview best.

I'm sure others can improve on this - but I too would love to see something
more than the comboforms.

Garret

"David Martinko" <DavidM@RedeemedSoftware.com> wrote in message
news:s$N6zYkaJHA.4048@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> Ok, this is really beginning to bug me so I'm going to make a request.
>
> I have 70 SRC files in one workspace. MOST of them I never touch... a lot
> of
> them are Single Use, but I keep them around for reference or in case I
> need
> them again.
>
> I am always having to hit the "more" button to get to the program I want
> to
> work on. So, I thought I was going to be smart and I edited the SWS file
> to
> change the ordering of the SRC's so the ones I use most often are at the
> top... but as soon as I added a new project it resorted the list.
>
> So, here is my suggestion: I would like the list to display the most
> frequently accessed SRC files, something similar to the way WindowsXP
> would
> display the most used programs in the START menu. Just because I accessed
> a
> program once didn't put it on the list... but if I accessed it several
> times, it would bump something else off the list and put itself there.
>
> If you _have_ to just display them as RECENT instead of MOST USED, I
> suppose
> that would at least an improvement.
>
> The advantage MOST USED would have over RECENT, is that if I usually use
> 15
> of the EXE's, and I open 1 of the 55 I rarely use change, then it wouldn't
> have to appear in the list and I could see more relevant programs.
>
> I don't think you need the combo on the toolbar at all... I think I prefer
> the combo in the Workspace Explorer floating panel. It would still be nice
> to have something like a "recent", and "all".
>
> ... see attached image for an idea ...
> --
> David Martinko
> Redeemed Software & Hosting
> www.RedeemedSoftware.com
> www.RedeemedHosting.com
> 248-535-7495
>