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Stephen W. Meeley
2-Feb-2005, 01:42 PM
Wil,

No offense taken, in fact it proves my point (at least part of it). In
our case, it wasn't any licensing issues that lead to us putting off
what should have been necessary upgrades for far too long. We just fell
into the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" trap. When something is such
a key component, and it interacts with many other components (especially
those over which you have little to no control - like supported
operating systems) and entities, leaving it alone just because it "isn't
broken" can be extremely dangerous. We messed up (the bug in Outlook
2003 helped), and it cost us dearly. You can bet that we've learned
from this lesson, it's just unfortunate that we had to do it the hard
way.

We're now even planning to replace the rotary phones and patch-cable
switchboard we have too <vbg>!

Best regards,

-SWM-


-----Original Message-----
From: Wil van Antwerpen [mailto:info@antwise.com]
Posted At: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:24 PM
Posted To: visual-dataflex
Conversation: vdf7.3 and word crashing
Subject: Re: vdf7.3 and word crashing


Stephen Meeley wrote:
> Peter (and anyone else in the same boat),
>
> How long has it been since you've had a serious discussion with us (in

> your case - DAAP) to see if some licensing arrangement could be
reached?

Says someone that just dismissed their old NT4 NNTP server (sorry please
delete couldn't help myself <VVBG>)

Wil
>
>
> VDF 7.3 is will be 4 years old in April and the list of fixes,
> improvements and new technologies (let alone support) between 7.3 and
> 10.1 (let alone 11.0 - coming soon) is so large, it isn't even fair to

> try to compare the two! At what point, do the licensing costs (even
> at list prices - which nobody pays anyway) become less "expensive"
> than what you are missing - especially when you add in all the time
> and effort you've spent just getting 7.3 to do what you need it to do
> on newer platforms or with newer technologies.
>
> Best regards,
>
> -SWM-
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Brooks [mailto:phbrooks@optushome.com.au]
> Posted At: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:46 PM Posted To:
> visual-dataflex
> Conversation: vdf7.3 and word crashing
> Subject: Re: vdf7.3 and word crashing
>
>
> More Information established.
> 1. It used to work on all my XP PCs
> 2. Different versions of the program (going back 6 months) now no
> longer work. Sometimes it appears to work in some situations.
> 3. So what is different - XP Service Pack 2?
>
> Conclusion. I will need to test further on other PC's elsewhere.
> If DAW can change their licensing policy I could upgrade to vdf10.1
>
> Peter Brooks
>
>

wila
2-Feb-2005, 01:49 PM
Stephen,

Stephen Meeley wrote:
> Wil,
>
> No offense taken, in fact it proves my point (at least part of it). In
> our case, it wasn't any licensing issues that lead to us putting off
> what should have been necessary upgrades for far too long. We just fell
> into the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" trap. When something is such
> a key component, and it interacts with many other components (especially
> those over which you have little to no control - like supported
> operating systems) and entities, leaving it alone just because it "isn't
> broken" can be extremely dangerous. We messed up (the bug in Outlook
> 2003 helped), and it cost us dearly. You can bet that we've learned
> from this lesson, it's just unfortunate that we had to do it the hard
> way.

[WvA] So the next NNTP server is going to run under UNIX then? <g>

I still have messages and dates mixed up here in this group and the
open-source one. Not a major showstopper, but annoying when you read
those few messages. O well, we gotta learn to live with it, there's
definately more serious things to look into.

>
> We're now even planning to replace the rotary phones and patch-cable
> switchboard we have too <vbg>!

[WvA] LOL ;)

0-0
Wil

>
> Best regards,
>
> -SWM-
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wil van Antwerpen [mailto:info@antwise.com]
> Posted At: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:24 PM
> Posted To: visual-dataflex
> Conversation: vdf7.3 and word crashing
> Subject: Re: vdf7.3 and word crashing
>
>
> Stephen Meeley wrote:
>
>>Peter (and anyone else in the same boat),
>>
>>How long has it been since you've had a serious discussion with us (in
>
>
>>your case - DAAP) to see if some licensing arrangement could be
>
> reached?
>
> Says someone that just dismissed their old NT4 NNTP server (sorry please
> delete couldn't help myself <VVBG>)
>
> Wil
>
>>
>>VDF 7.3 is will be 4 years old in April and the list of fixes,
>>improvements and new technologies (let alone support) between 7.3 and
>>10.1 (let alone 11.0 - coming soon) is so large, it isn't even fair to
>
>
>>try to compare the two! At what point, do the licensing costs (even
>>at list prices - which nobody pays anyway) become less "expensive"
>>than what you are missing - especially when you add in all the time
>>and effort you've spent just getting 7.3 to do what you need it to do
>>on newer platforms or with newer technologies.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>-SWM-
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Peter Brooks [mailto:phbrooks@optushome.com.au]
>>Posted At: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:46 PM Posted To:
>>visual-dataflex
>>Conversation: vdf7.3 and word crashing
>>Subject: Re: vdf7.3 and word crashing
>>
>>
>>More Information established.
>>1. It used to work on all my XP PCs
>>2. Different versions of the program (going back 6 months) now no
>>longer work. Sometimes it appears to work in some situations.
>>3. So what is different - XP Service Pack 2?
>>
>>Conclusion. I will need to test further on other PC's elsewhere.
>>If DAW can change their licensing policy I could upgrade to vdf10.1
>>
>>Peter Brooks
>>
>>
>
>