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Jan-E
9-Sep-2005, 05:56 PM
Just wondering: how many users out there are sill using a DF2.3 runtime
(not the DF2.3b)??

This evening I patched a German DF2.3 runtime to make it running smoothly
under Windows XP. The runtime will be sent into oblivion next year after
working fine for 18 years! Since 1988 the runtime kept on running...

Jan
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Low CPU versions of DF2.3b - http://www.monitor.nl/df/df.html

britk9
9-Sep-2005, 06:49 PM
Jan,

So why will it be sent into oblivion?

Best Regards,
Mike


"Jan Ehrhardt" <Jan.Ehrhardt@monitor.nl> wrote in message
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> Just wondering: how many users out there are sill using a DF2.3 runtime
> (not the DF2.3b)??
>
> This evening I patched a German DF2.3 runtime to make it running smoothly
> under Windows XP. The runtime will be sent into oblivion next year after
> working fine for 18 years! Since 1988 the runtime kept on running...
>
> Jan
> --
> Low CPU versions of DF2.3b - http://www.monitor.nl/df/df.html

Evertjan Dondergoor
12-Sep-2005, 02:32 AM
Because then they finally upgrade it to 2.3b! :-P

"britk9" <britk9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Jan,
>
> So why will it be sent into oblivion?
>
> Best Regards,
> Mike
>
>
> "Jan Ehrhardt" <Jan.Ehrhardt@monitor.nl> wrote in message
> news:tb44i199n7fbj5gesv4h8e621d5r8iqvcl@4ax.com...
>> Just wondering: how many users out there are sill using a DF2.3 runtime
>> (not the DF2.3b)??
>>
>> This evening I patched a German DF2.3 runtime to make it running smoothly
>> under Windows XP. The runtime will be sent into oblivion next year after
>> working fine for 18 years! Since 1988 the runtime kept on running...
>>
>> Jan
>> --
>> Low CPU versions of DF2.3b - http://www.monitor.nl/df/df.html
>
>

Jan-E
12-Sep-2005, 05:41 PM
In the words of the DF2.3 dveloper:

|Next year I start to look for a new ERP, because 'it's time to say good-by'

Jan

Evertjan Dondergoor in dataflex (Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:32:34 +0200):
>Because then they finally upgrade it to 2.3b! :-P
>
>"britk9" <britk9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>news:B8MduYZtFHA.1896@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
>> Jan,
>>
>> So why will it be sent into oblivion?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> "Jan Ehrhardt" <Jan.Ehrhardt@monitor.nl> wrote in message
>> news:tb44i199n7fbj5gesv4h8e621d5r8iqvcl@4ax.com...
>>> Just wondering: how many users out there are sill using a DF2.3 runtime
>>> (not the DF2.3b)??
>>>
>>> This evening I patched a German DF2.3 runtime to make it running smoothly
>>> under Windows XP. The runtime will be sent into oblivion next year after
>>> working fine for 18 years! Since 1988 the runtime kept on running...
>>>
>>> Jan
>>> --
>>> Low CPU versions of DF2.3b - http://www.monitor.nl/df/df.html
>>
>>
>

--
Low CPU versions of DF2.3b - http://www.monitor.nl/df/df.html

Roger Loftus
12-Sep-2005, 06:28 PM
Jan Ehrhardt wrote:

> Just wondering: how many users out there are sill using a DF2.3
> runtime (not the DF2.3b)??
>
> This evening I patched a German DF2.3 runtime to make it running
> smoothly under Windows XP. The runtime will be sent into oblivion
> next year after working fine for 18 years! Since 1988 the runtime
> kept on running...
>
> Jan

Jan:

I have wanted to ask you for years - did you ever experiment with the
Dataflex 3.01b phase 1 windows runtime that was included with the
regular 3.01b release?

I have looked at your Dos-modified runtimes, but always had very good
luck with Tamedos for killing CPU polling on the Dos versions. That is
definitely not true with the Phase 1 Windows runtime. Cpu usage goes
immediately to 100% when the runtime is loaded, and stays there until
it is closed. Strangely, the Windows runtime contained a yield_count
variable which you were to set to control CPU usage, but that has never
worked at all in any version of Windows I have used.

Other than the fact that the Phase 1 Windows runtime is the ONLY
runtime that seems CPU uncontrollable under Windows, I found it to be a
desirable console mode environment for programming with some
significant advantages over the Dos runtime in memory space and window
formatting (over 80 columns are no problem).

Anyway, I would be very interested if this problem could be solved by
your typical runtime modification.

Roger Loftus

Marco
12-Sep-2005, 06:38 PM
Jan,

Perhaps he/she changes their mind if they see the cost...

Cheers,
Marco

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:41:32 +0200, Jan Ehrhardt
<Jan.Ehrhardt@monitor.nl> wrote:

>In the words of the DF2.3 dveloper:
>
>|Next year I start to look for a new ERP, because 'it's time to say good-by'
>
>Jan
>
>Evertjan Dondergoor in dataflex (Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:32:34 +0200):
>>Because then they finally upgrade it to 2.3b! :-P
>>
>>"britk9" <britk9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>news:B8MduYZtFHA.1896@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
>>> Jan,
>>>
>>> So why will it be sent into oblivion?
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jan Ehrhardt" <Jan.Ehrhardt@monitor.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:tb44i199n7fbj5gesv4h8e621d5r8iqvcl@4ax.com...
>>>> Just wondering: how many users out there are sill using a DF2.3 runtime
>>>> (not the DF2.3b)??
>>>>
>>>> This evening I patched a German DF2.3 runtime to make it running smoothly
>>>> under Windows XP. The runtime will be sent into oblivion next year after
>>>> working fine for 18 years! Since 1988 the runtime kept on running...
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>> --
>>>> Low CPU versions of DF2.3b - http://www.monitor.nl/df/df.html
>>>
>>>
>>

britk9
12-Sep-2005, 08:18 PM
Jan,

Thx for the explanation. Just wanting to make sure I wasn't overlooking a
"technical" issue.

BTW, ditto to Marco's comments.

Best Regards,
Mike

"Marco Kuipers" <marco.kuipers@nci.com.au> wrote in message
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> Jan,
>
> Perhaps he/she changes their mind if they see the cost...
>
> Cheers,
> Marco
>
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:41:32 +0200, Jan Ehrhardt
> <Jan.Ehrhardt@monitor.nl> wrote:
>
> >In the words of the DF2.3 dveloper:
> >
> >|Next year I start to look for a new ERP, because 'it's time to say
good-by'
> >
> >Jan
> >
> >Evertjan Dondergoor in dataflex (Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:32:34 +0200):
> >>Because then they finally upgrade it to 2.3b! :-P
> >>
> >>"britk9" <britk9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >>news:B8MduYZtFHA.1896@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> >>> Jan,
> >>>
> >>> So why will it be sent into oblivion?
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Jan Ehrhardt" <Jan.Ehrhardt@monitor.nl> wrote in message
> >>> news:tb44i199n7fbj5gesv4h8e621d5r8iqvcl@4ax.com...
> >>>> Just wondering: how many users out there are sill using a DF2.3
runtime
> >>>> (not the DF2.3b)??
> >>>>
> >>>> This evening I patched a German DF2.3 runtime to make it running
smoothly
> >>>> under Windows XP. The runtime will be sent into oblivion next year
after
> >>>> working fine for 18 years! Since 1988 the runtime kept on running...
> >>>>
> >>>> Jan
> >>>> --
> >>>> Low CPU versions of DF2.3b - http://www.monitor.nl/df/df.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>

Michael Fenton
13-Sep-2005, 05:56 AM
Many years ago I had a very resource-hungry application that I tamed by
adding a small pause in the polling loop of menu.src or .frm. Just
before the inkey chr I inserted "wait 0.1 " it made the menu slow but
everything else was much faster.

Michael fenton

Jan-E
13-Sep-2005, 06:57 AM
Roger Loftus in dataflex (Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:28:37 -0400):

>I have wanted to ask you for years - did you ever experiment with the
>Dataflex 3.01b phase 1 windows runtime that was included with the
>regular 3.01b release?
>
>I have looked at your Dos-modified runtimes, but always had very good
>luck with Tamedos for killing CPU polling on the Dos versions. That is
>definitely not true with the Phase 1 Windows runtime.

I took a look once (long, long time ago), but skipped that very quickly.
I always track the critical parts of the DOS runtimes with the plain, old
DOS debug. And that does not work with Windows executables.

If the problem with the 3.01b Phase 1 runtime is the same as that in
DF2.3b, it should (in theory) be possible to patch that runtime as well.
However, I doubt that it is the same problem as the DF3.01b DOS runtime
does not suffer from the 100% CPU usage problem.

Jan
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Low CPU versions of DF2.3b - http://www.monitor.nl/df/df.html