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Tod Brannen
16-May-2005, 09:06 AM
Greetings,
Actually if I can just get the stupid XP short cut to run my batch file
I would be happy. I can get a DOS window in XP ok, but I set the shortcut to
run a batch file to set my DFpath and DFprog and DOSKey etc and it won't run
it. I tried adding an extra command on the command line but that did not
help. I have to manually run the batch file once the DOS window is opened.
What am I missing?

Thanks

Tod Brannen

Jan-E
16-May-2005, 09:20 AM
Tod Brannen in dataflex (Mon, 16 May 2005 07:06:07 -0700):

>Greetings,
> Actually if I can just get the stupid XP short cut to run my batch file
>I would be happy. I can get a DOS window in XP ok, but I set the shortcut to
>run a batch file to set my DFpath and DFprog and DOSKey etc and it won't run
>it. I tried adding an extra command on the command line but that did not
>help. I have to manually run the batch file once the DOS window is opened.
>What am I missing?

Try enlarging the environment size in the properties|memory of the
shortcut to the batch file.

Jan
--
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Peter van Mil
16-May-2005, 11:28 AM
Tod,

I am using shortcuts to .cmd files and that works fine. I will send an
example, maybe you will find a clue.

Regards,

Peter van Mil


Tod Brannen schreef:
> Greetings,
> Actually if I can just get the stupid XP short cut to run my batch file
> I would be happy. I can get a DOS window in XP ok, but I set the shortcut to
> run a batch file to set my DFpath and DFprog and DOSKey etc and it won't run
> it. I tried adding an extra command on the command line but that did not
> help. I have to manually run the batch file once the DOS window is opened.
> What am I missing?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tod Brannen
>
>

@echo off
set dfprog=f:\df301b
set dfpath=.;.\data;..;f:\df301b
set dfprinter=lpt1:
set tmp=c:\temp
set temp=c:\temp
set path=f:\df301b;%path%
f:
cd\theaflex
flex

Tod Brannen
16-May-2005, 04:22 PM
Jan,
I already had the memory at 1024, so I doubled it to 2048 and it did not
work either.

Thanks,

Tod Brannen

"Jan Ehrhardt" <Jan.Ehrhardt@monitor.nl> wrote in message
news:qsah819oevej8scrb2cjgpqonv86l0fach@4ax.com...
> Tod Brannen in dataflex (Mon, 16 May 2005 07:06:07 -0700):
>
> >Greetings,
> > Actually if I can just get the stupid XP short cut to run my batch
file
> >I would be happy. I can get a DOS window in XP ok, but I set the shortcut
to
> >run a batch file to set my DFpath and DFprog and DOSKey etc and it won't
run
> >it. I tried adding an extra command on the command line but that did not
> >help. I have to manually run the batch file once the DOS window is
opened.
> >What am I missing?
>
> Try enlarging the environment size in the properties|memory of the
> shortcut to the batch file.
>
> Jan
> --
> Low CPU versions of DF2.3b - http://www.monitor.nl/df/df.html

Tod Brannen
16-May-2005, 04:29 PM
Peter,
The only thing I could think of was to change the name of my batch file
from .BAT to .CMD. I tried that and it did not work. Completely ignores the
file.

Thanks,

Tod Brannen

"Peter van Mil" <peter@appvantage.nl> wrote in message
news:Nk6l9QjWFHA.1272@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> Tod,
>
> I am using shortcuts to .cmd files and that works fine. I will send an
> example, maybe you will find a clue.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter van Mil
>
>
> Tod Brannen schreef:
> > Greetings,
> > Actually if I can just get the stupid XP short cut to run my batch
file
> > I would be happy. I can get a DOS window in XP ok, but I set the
shortcut to
> > run a batch file to set my DFpath and DFprog and DOSKey etc and it won't
run
> > it. I tried adding an extra command on the command line but that did not
> > help. I have to manually run the batch file once the DOS window is
opened.
> > What am I missing?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tod Brannen
> >
> >
>


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----


> @echo off
> set dfprog=f:\df301b
> set dfpath=.;.\data;..;f:\df301b
> set dfprinter=lpt1:
> set tmp=c:\temp
> set temp=c:\temp
> set path=f:\df301b;%path%
> f:
> cd\theaflex
> flex
>

Tod Brannen
16-May-2005, 04:39 PM
Mike,
Neither suggestion worked. I had heard something about XP (or maybe
2000) eating the first command line parameter so I added another 'dummy'
parameter but it did not help.
Let me know what you have that works. Note that this is a DOS shortcut, well
at least the Icon it creates shows the DOS logo. it has many tabs in the
properties dialog such as General, program, font, memory, screen, misc, and
compatibility. I tried setting the 'Compatibility' to "Windows98 / Windows
ME", but that didn't help either.

Tod Brannen

britk9
16-May-2005, 04:41 PM
Tod,

Let me know if the other suggestions don't work. We do this all the time
and I will check with someone here to see what, if anything is special when
running XP.

Best Regards,
Mike

"Tod Brannen" <tbrannen@ate.net> wrote in message
news:7WeyuBiWFHA.1320@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> Greetings,
> Actually if I can just get the stupid XP short cut to run my batch
file
> I would be happy. I can get a DOS window in XP ok, but I set the shortcut
to
> run a batch file to set my DFpath and DFprog and DOSKey etc and it won't
run
> it. I tried adding an extra command on the command line but that did not
> help. I have to manually run the batch file once the DOS window is opened.
> What am I missing?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tod Brannen
>
>

britk9
16-May-2005, 06:41 PM
Todd,

What version of DF DOS are you running?

Will check with my office in the morning and get back to you hopefully
before the day is out.

Best Regards,
Mike

"Tod Brannen" <tbrannen@ate.net> wrote in message
news:xZuajAmWFHA.1272@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> Mike,
> Neither suggestion worked. I had heard something about XP (or maybe
> 2000) eating the first command line parameter so I added another 'dummy'
> parameter but it did not help.
> Let me know what you have that works. Note that this is a DOS shortcut,
well
> at least the Icon it creates shows the DOS logo. it has many tabs in the
> properties dialog such as General, program, font, memory, screen, misc,
and
> compatibility. I tried setting the 'Compatibility' to "Windows98 / Windows
> ME", but that didn't help either.
>
> Tod Brannen
>
>
>

britk9
16-May-2005, 06:49 PM
Tod,

Its just a shot but do you have c:\windows\system32\autoexec.nt and
c:\windows\system32\config.nt files?

I seem to recall being able to run DF DOS from a DOS box but not from a
short cut until I added the autoexec.nt.

I have attached both files from my XP Pro that I run at home.

HTH,
Mike


"britk9" <britk9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:iICj14mWFHA.1272@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> Todd,
>
> What version of DF DOS are you running?
>
> Will check with my office in the morning and get back to you hopefully
> before the day is out.
>
> Best Regards,
> Mike
>
> "Tod Brannen" <tbrannen@ate.net> wrote in message
> news:xZuajAmWFHA.1272@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> > Mike,
> > Neither suggestion worked. I had heard something about XP (or maybe
> > 2000) eating the first command line parameter so I added another 'dummy'
> > parameter but it did not help.
> > Let me know what you have that works. Note that this is a DOS shortcut,
> well
> > at least the Icon it creates shows the DOS logo. it has many tabs in the
> > properties dialog such as General, program, font, memory, screen, misc,
> and
> > compatibility. I tried setting the 'Compatibility' to "Windows98 /
Windows
> > ME", but that didn't help either.
> >
> > Tod Brannen
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Bill Clifford
16-May-2005, 11:26 PM
Shortcut parameters -

Tod,
If you don't have the autoexec.nt and config.nt files, you get an
error stating can't run a 16 bit application. There should be no
problem launching a dataflex program from a short cut to a batch file
in Win2K or WinXP. I've been doing that for years. I gather the batch
file works if you type it at the command prompt. This would indicate
that you are setting the environment correctly. Have you set the
"start in" to the directory in which the batch file is located?

Bill


britk9 wrote:

> Tod,
>
> Its just a shot but do you have c:\windows\system32\autoexec.nt and
> c:\windows\system32\config.nt files?
>
> I seem to recall being able to run DF DOS from a DOS box but not from
> a short cut until I added the autoexec.nt.
>
> I have attached both files from my XP Pro that I run at home.
>
> HTH,
> Mike
>
>
> "britk9" <britk9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:iICj14mWFHA.1272@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> > Todd,
> >
> > What version of DF DOS are you running?
> >
> > Will check with my office in the morning and get back to you
> > hopefully before the day is out.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Mike
> >
> > "Tod Brannen" <tbrannen@ate.net> wrote in message
> > news:xZuajAmWFHA.1272@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> > > Mike,
> > > Neither suggestion worked. I had heard something about XP (or
> > > maybe 2000) eating the first command line parameter so I added
> > > another 'dummy' parameter but it did not help.
> > > Let me know what you have that works. Note that this is a DOS
> > > shortcut,
> > well
> > > at least the Icon it creates shows the DOS logo. it has many tabs
> > > in the properties dialog such as General, program, font, memory,
> > > screen, misc,
> > and
> > > compatibility. I tried setting the 'Compatibility' to "Windows98 /
> Windows
> > > ME", but that didn't help either.
> > >
> > > Tod Brannen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Danny Berman
17-May-2005, 06:57 AM
Tod,

It sounds like you copied this shortcut (.pif) from a 95/98 system. Have
you tried creating the shortcut (.lnk) using XP? We do it all the time with
both 2.3b and 3.1d. There is no memory setting available or required.

-Danny-

"Tod Brannen" <tbrannen@ate.net> wrote in message
news:xZuajAmWFHA.1272@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
Mike,
Neither suggestion worked. I had heard something about XP (or maybe
2000) eating the first command line parameter so I added another 'dummy'
parameter but it did not help.
Let me know what you have that works. Note that this is a DOS shortcut, well
at least the Icon it creates shows the DOS logo. it has many tabs in the
properties dialog such as General, program, font, memory, screen, misc, and
compatibility. I tried setting the 'Compatibility' to "Windows98 / Windows
ME", but that didn't help either.

Tod Brannen

Tod Brannen
17-May-2005, 08:36 AM
Danny,
I am not familiar with a (.lnk), but would be happy to try it if you can
explain how to do it.

Thanks,

Tod Brannen

Tod Brannen
17-May-2005, 08:40 AM
Mike,
I have both files already.

Tod Brannen

Bill Clifford
17-May-2005, 08:52 AM
Danny Berman wrote:

> Tod,
>
> It sounds like you copied this shortcut (.pif) from a 95/98 system.
> Have you tried creating the shortcut (.lnk) using XP? We do it all
> the time with both 2.3b and 3.1d. There is no memory setting
> available or required.
>
> -Danny-
>
> "Tod Brannen" <tbrannen@ate.net> wrote in message
> news:xZuajAmWFHA.1272@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> Mike,
> Neither suggestion worked. I had heard something about XP (or
> maybe 2000) eating the first command line parameter so I added
> another 'dummy' parameter but it did not help.
> Let me know what you have that works. Note that this is a DOS
> shortcut, well at least the Icon it creates shows the DOS logo. it
> has many tabs in the properties dialog such as General, program,
> font, memory, screen, misc, and compatibility. I tried setting the
> 'Compatibility' to "Windows98 / Windows ME", but that didn't help
> either.
>
> Tod Brannen

I can confirm Danny's comment about Win9x shortcuts (PIF's) don't work
properly on Win2k or WinXP - you need to create a new shortcut to the
bat or cmd file from the desktop or Windows Explorer rather than simply
copying them from the old machine. However, it isn't often that a PIF
fails completely; it can launch the program but give erratic results
(eg won't launch chained programs). The report that the shortcut does
nothing at all still makes me wonder if the "start in directory"
parameter is set properly.

Bill

JimNC9
17-May-2005, 09:29 AM
Tod, open Win Explorer and right click the bat file and drag to the desktop
and release the mouse button and chose create shortcut here.

Is your bat file calling another bat file? I'm having problems get XP to do
that.

Jim /*

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"Tod Brannen" <tbrannen@ate.net> wrote in message
news:ptnBIXuWFHA.1320@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> Danny,
> I am not familiar with a (.lnk), but would be happy to try it if you
> can
> explain how to do it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tod Brannen
>
>

Tod Brannen
17-May-2005, 01:37 PM
Jim,
Thanks for the reply. Here is the problem I don't think anyone
understands.
I am trying to open a DOS window BEFORE running the batch file. The short
cut is to c:\windows32\cmd.exe, then the 'Batch File' in the short cut is to
c:\mybat.bat.
This way I can use the Dos Window for other things such as manual file
copy/deletes or using my DOS text editor and other tools. I am not trying to
RUN dataflex or a program, except a batch file to set up the environment.
Then all I will see is the DOS window and I can run dffile or dffedit or a
..flx or an editor. The problem is the batch file never runs. So I get the
DOS window, but I can't run anything because the pathing is not set in the
environment. Then I am forced to run the batch file manually. (Oh, my aching
fingers! I must type 8 characters and hit Enter.<g>) It is just irritating
that I can't make it do what it should do. It should just work. (grrrrrr).

Thanks,

Tod Branen


"Jim Ward" <jward@advanceddesignsinc.com> wrote in message
news:84cLI0uWFHA.1272@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> Tod, open Win Explorer and right click the bat file and drag to the
desktop
> and release the mouse button and chose create shortcut here.
>
> Is your bat file calling another bat file? I'm having problems get XP to
do
> that.
>
> Jim /*
>
> WebApp Hosting
> http://www.advanceddesignsinc.com/Web%20Hosting.htm
>
>
>
>
> "Tod Brannen" <tbrannen@ate.net> wrote in message
> news:ptnBIXuWFHA.1320@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> > Danny,
> > I am not familiar with a (.lnk), but would be happy to try it if you
> > can
> > explain how to do it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tod Brannen
> >
> >
>
>

pm3bob
17-May-2005, 02:21 PM
Here is my Batch File "F:\DF31D\Programs\DF_ON_I.BAT"

i:
cd \df31d\programs
set dfenv=\df31d\31d-bkup.cfg
cmd

My Shortcut properties are:

Target: F:\DF31d\Programs\DF_ON_I.BAT
Start In: I:\DF31D\Programs

Does exactly what you want ... sets up a dos window on my backup server (I:)
and leaves me at the command prompt.

Good Luck

"Tod Brannen" <tbrannen@ate.net> wrote in message
news:wSaLb$wWFHA.1320@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> Jim,
> Thanks for the reply. Here is the problem I don't think anyone
> understands.
> I am trying to open a DOS window BEFORE running the batch file. The short
> cut is to c:\windows32\cmd.exe, then the 'Batch File' in the short cut is
> to
> c:\mybat.bat.
> This way I can use the Dos Window for other things such as manual file
> copy/deletes or using my DOS text editor and other tools. I am not trying
> to
> RUN dataflex or a program, except a batch file to set up the environment.
> Then all I will see is the DOS window and I can run dffile or dffedit or a
> .flx or an editor. The problem is the batch file never runs. So I get the
> DOS window, but I can't run anything because the pathing is not set in the
> environment. Then I am forced to run the batch file manually. (Oh, my
> aching
> fingers! I must type 8 characters and hit Enter.<g>) It is just irritating
> that I can't make it do what it should do. It should just work. (grrrrrr).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tod Branen
>
>
> "Jim Ward" <jward@advanceddesignsinc.com> wrote in message
> news:84cLI0uWFHA.1272@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
>> Tod, open Win Explorer and right click the bat file and drag to the
> desktop
>> and release the mouse button and chose create shortcut here.
>>
>> Is your bat file calling another bat file? I'm having problems get XP to
> do
>> that.
>>
>> Jim /*
>>
>> WebApp Hosting
>> http://www.advanceddesignsinc.com/Web%20Hosting.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tod Brannen" <tbrannen@ate.net> wrote in message
>> news:ptnBIXuWFHA.1320@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
>> > Danny,
>> > I am not familiar with a (.lnk), but would be happy to try it if you
>> > can
>> > explain how to do it.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tod Brannen
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

JimNC9
17-May-2005, 02:29 PM
In a PIF file the batch file specified in the PIF file will always run
before the DOS prompt is available. It's for setting up the environment,
something like Bob Stearns suggested.


Jim /*

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"Tod Brannen" <tbrannen@ate.net> wrote in message
news:wSaLb$wWFHA.1320@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
> Jim,
> Thanks for the reply. Here is the problem I don't think anyone
> understands.
> I am trying to open a DOS window BEFORE running the batch file. The short
> cut is to c:\windows32\cmd.exe, then the 'Batch File' in the short cut is
> to
> c:\mybat.bat.
> This way I can use the Dos Window for other things such as manual file
> copy/deletes or using my DOS text editor and other tools. I am not trying
> to
> RUN dataflex or a program, except a batch file to set up the environment.
> Then all I will see is the DOS window and I can run dffile or dffedit or a
> .flx or an editor. The problem is the batch file never runs. So I get the
> DOS window, but I can't run anything because the pathing is not set in the
> environment. Then I am forced to run the batch file manually. (Oh, my
> aching
> fingers! I must type 8 characters and hit Enter.<g>) It is just irritating
> that I can't make it do what it should do. It should just work. (grrrrrr).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tod Branen
>
>
> "Jim Ward" <jward@advanceddesignsinc.com> wrote in message
> news:84cLI0uWFHA.1272@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
>> Tod, open Win Explorer and right click the bat file and drag to the
> desktop
>> and release the mouse button and chose create shortcut here.
>>
>> Is your bat file calling another bat file? I'm having problems get XP to
> do
>> that.
>>
>> Jim /*
>>
>> WebApp Hosting
>> http://www.advanceddesignsinc.com/Web%20Hosting.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tod Brannen" <tbrannen@ate.net> wrote in message
>> news:ptnBIXuWFHA.1320@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
>> > Danny,
>> > I am not familiar with a (.lnk), but would be happy to try it if you
>> > can
>> > explain how to do it.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tod Brannen
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Glennbo
17-May-2005, 03:44 PM
The entity known as Tod Brannen, posted:

> What am I missing?

This is what you're missing. DF31C is the name of *my* batch file.

This is the line you want.

%SystemRoot%\system32\cmd.exe /k DF31C

Put the above line into a WinXP shortcut, and change the "DF31C" to be
the name of your batch file. It should fly!


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Danny Berman
17-May-2005, 05:20 PM
Tod,

You may have put it altogether from the other responses, but just in case, I
think this is all you need to do:

Modify your batch file so that the last line is:
CMD

Create the shortcut by:
Right-click on your desktop.
Click New.
Click Shortcut.
Either type your batch filename, including its path, or browse for it.
Click Next.
Name your shortcut and click Finish.

It should work as is. You may also go into the properties for the shortcut
and do things like change the icon, font, layout, colors, and other options.

-Danny-

"Tod Brannen" <tbrannen@ate.net> wrote in message
news:ptnBIXuWFHA.1320@dacmail.dataaccess.com...
Danny,
I am not familiar with a (.lnk), but would be happy to try it if you can
explain how to do it.

Thanks,

Tod Brannen

Roger Loftus
17-May-2005, 07:14 PM
Tod Brannen wrote:

> Jim,
> Thanks for the reply. Here is the problem I don't think anyone
> understands.
> I am trying to open a DOS window BEFORE running the batch file. The
> short cut is to c:\windows32\cmd.exe, then the 'Batch File' in the
> short cut is to c:\mybat.bat.
> This way I can use the Dos Window for other things such as manual file
> copy/deletes or using my DOS text editor and other tools. I am not
> trying to RUN dataflex or a program, except a batch file to set up
> the environment. Then all I will see is the DOS window and I can run
> dffile or dffedit or a .flx or an editor. The problem is the batch
> file never runs. So I get the DOS window, but I can't run anything
> because the pathing is not set in the environment. Then I am forced
> to run the batch file manually. (Oh, my aching fingers! I must type 8
> characters and hit Enter.<g>) It is just irritating that I can't make
> it do what it should do. It should just work. (grrrrrr).
>
> Thanks,

Tod:

I am thinking that your batch file probably runs and instantly closes
when you you call it form a short cut. I think that your default.pif
file in your system32 directory is set to close a dos session with
'close on exit' enabled, and that sets the action to instantly close
the dos box when all the commands within your batch file are completed.

What I would try is this: First, create (recreate) a normal shortcut
to your batch file. Leave all the cmd.exe stuff out of your batch file
and just 'set' the environment the way you want it. Next, add a
'pause' command to the end of your batch file. Now, call the batch
file by clicking your shortcut icon. It should run and stop at the
pause command. If that happens, you will know your batch is being
called, and your set commands should be echoed. Press any key and
your dos box will close.

If you are OK so far, run your batch file and while it is stalled at
the pause command, right click the title bar of the dos box and select
properties from the menu you get. Now change something like the font,
color, cursor size, whatever. When you OK the change, click the next
window to apply changes to the current window only. This should create
a .pif file with the same name and in the same directory as your .bat
file.

Now, in explorer, find the the .pif file and right-click it (it may
have the MSDOS icon and no extension shown). Now, select properties
and you will get an expanded set of options with the properties menu.
Under the program tab, remove the 'close on exit' checkmark. Don't get
confused in this menu and enter anything in the 'batch file' window,
and make sure that the 'cmd line' window contains the path for your
..bat file.

Now, remove the pause command at the end of your batch file, and your
set commands should execute and leave you in the open dos box with your
envirnoment set.

Roger Loftus

Jan-E
18-May-2005, 05:17 AM
Tod Brannen in dataflex (Tue, 17 May 2005 13:37:37 -0500):

>Jim,
> Thanks for the reply. Here is the problem I don't think anyone
>understands.
>I am trying to open a DOS window BEFORE running the batch file. The short
>cut is to c:\windows32\cmd.exe, then the 'Batch File' in the short cut is to
>c:\mybat.bat.

Aha! That is the problem. You click on the shortcut, the batch file runs
and you will get the DOS box. What you connot see is that this (probably)
is the actual process:

1. The DOS box opens
2. A new command processor opens within the DOS box and runs mybat.bat
3. The new command processor exits to the DOS box, *loosing* all changes
in the environment (!)
4. You get the command prompt without the dfpath settings

Workaround: add a last line to mybat.bat, containing '%comspec%' and
create a shortcut directly to mybat.bat.

Jan
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Low CPU versions of DF2.3b - http://www.monitor.nl/df/df.html

Glennbo
18-May-2005, 10:17 AM
The entity known as Jan Ehrhardt, posted:

> 1. The DOS box opens
> 2. A new command processor opens within the DOS box and runs mybat.bat
> 3. The new command processor exits to the DOS box,*loosing* all
> changes in the environment (!)
> 4. You get the command prompt without the dfpath settings


It will work if you just launch your batchfile with this command.

%SystemRoot%\system32\cmd.exe /k MyBatch.bat

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/ ___/ / / __/ |/ / |/ / _ )/ __ \
/ (_ / /__/ _// / / _ / /_/ /
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Tod Brannen
18-May-2005, 04:01 PM
Thanks, Glennbo
That was the answer! yahoo!

Tod Brannen